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# RE: Numbers of splits and report precincts in your jurisdiction

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- Subject: RE: Numbers of splits and report precincts in your jurisdiction
- From: "Tyler Lincks" <tyler@gesn.com>
- Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:42:52 -0600
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- In-reply-to: <PPECJKNKLDJLKJPKPPIOIEDCCMAA.ken@gesn.com>

Weld County, Colorado has something like 25 splits in some precincts, as I recall, but Tari is better qualified than I to speak to it. I don't recall multiple-precinct vote centers though.
Tyler

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-support@gesn.com [mailto:owner-support@gesn.com]On Behalf Of Ken Clark
> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 1:45 PM
> To: support@gesn.com
> Subject: RE: Numbers of splits and report precincts in your jurisdiction
> No, really its not. I am quite serious. Tulare is the only jurisdiction I have come across that has 18 splits times two in one vote center. Asking poll workers to choose from list of 36 is just broken. I need to know whether Tulare is an anomaly, or whether there are a lot of other accounts like this across the country. If there are other accounts like this, I need to their names, and their base precinct naming conventions. If Tulare stands alone, that is easy. If they do not, then I need to find a way to deal with it. If this is a CA specific issue, then we need to consider a CA specific solution.
> Folks, thus far the only response I have had on this topic is from Knecht. When everyone except from Knecht hates the user interface, I will be sure to point this out.
> Ken

> > From: owner-support@gesn.com [mailto:owner-support@gesn.com]On Behalf Of Steve Knecht
> > Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 8:16 PM
> > To: support@gesn.com
> > Subject: Re: Numbers of splits and report precincts in your jurisdiction
> > I will take your last paragraph as largely tongue-in-cheek. Let me know if I'm reading you incorrectly.

> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Ken Clark
> > > To: support@gesn.com
> > > Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 11:24 AM
> > > Subject: RE: Numbers of splits and report precincts in your jurisdiction
> > > Okay, I dug up a Tulare database. Two report precincts split 18 ways for a total of 36 base precincts all in the same vote center. Amazing.
> > > I need more data. Is there any county in the nation as screwed up as Tulare? How many are there? Who are they? Do any reside outside the state of California?
> > > Ken

> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-support@gesn.com [mailto:owner-support@gesn.com]On Behalf Of Steve Knecht
> > > > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 5:57 PM
> > > > To: support@gesn.com
> > > > Subject: Re: Numbers of splits and report precincts in your jurisdiction
> > > > I was using what I thought was the case for Tulare, as they are the most consolidated into Vote Centers. Counties vary widely on how much consolidation they do and whether they allow splits or not within reporting precincts. Counties vary widely in this specific question.

> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Ken Clark
> > > > > To: support@gesn.com
> > > > > Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 1:32 PM
> > > > > Subject: RE: Numbers of splits and report precincts in your jurisdiction

> > > > > > From: owner-support@gesn.com [mailto:owner-support@gesn.com]On Behalf Of Steve Knecht
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 2:52 PM
> > > > > > I don't know what you mean by "precinct controller user interface" so I may not be answering your questions. (Guess - how to list base pcts on Journada?)

> > > > > Something like that...

> > > > > > I don't know how that relates to nonpartisan ballot styles. But generally you'd find 3-4 non partisan ballot styles in a vote center with 4-6 precincts.

> > > > > Its ballot style - report precinct combinations I am really looking for. I am saying base precint just 'cause I don't want to complicate the question with parties.

> > > > > > I'm guessing but, I'd say base precincts per vote center.
> > > > > > % Base Precincts in VC > 1 = 99+%
> > > > > > % Base Precincts in VC > 4 = 90%
> > > > > > % Base Precincts in VC > 6 = 80%
> > > > > > % Base Precincts in VC > 9 = 50%
> > > > > > % Base Precincts in VC >12 = 15%
> > > > > > % Base Precincts in VC >18 = <3%

> > > > > Well, the feedback is appreciated, but I think I need a little more hard data here. Here is what I get for Alameda using their 2000 database.
> > > > > #base pcts, #vcenters
> > > > > 1, 469
> > > > > 2, 303
> > > > > 3, 88
> > > > > 4, 37
> > > > > 5, 18
> > > > > 6, 8
> > > > > 7, 5
> > > > > 9, 1
> > > > > 10, 2
> > > > > That's out of 930 odd polling vcenters. Maybe the database I am using is wrong, I dunno. But I need to know. If I design the user interface using your guess that 18% of vcenters are going to have 12+ basepcts, that is going to piss off the 100% of poll workers in Alameda that have 10 or less. And it will really piss off the 96.45% of them that have four or less.
> > > > > Ken

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