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# RE: New York ballot and the "Push" in certain races

- To: <rcr@dieboldes.com>
- Subject: RE: New York ballot and the "Push" in certain races
- From: "Ken Clark" <ken@dieboldes.com>
- Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 11:11:28 -0700
- Importance: Normal
- In-Reply-To: <PPECJKNKLDJLKJPKPPIOEEMKCNAA.ken@dieboldes.com>

A few questions:
How exactly do they rank their parties? Is it safe to say that the ranking is the same as the order on the ballot, or is it more complicated than that? How do they rotate candidates, if at all?
Do they do straight party and if so what is the rule?
And finally, what is the timeline for demonstrating the push feature and for running the first election to use it?
Ken

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rcr@dieboldes.com [mailto:owner-rcr@dieboldes.com]On Behalf Of Ken Clark
> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 1:04 PM
> To: rcr@dieboldes.com
> Subject: RE: New York ballot and the "Push" in certain races
> I don't have the fax, but I think I follow. The candidates are cross endorsed. Overvotes in a cross endorsed group go to the highest ranking party. T his is one of those changes that hits a lot of subsystems...
> We would need to change the AVOS tally logic, plus changes to the download protocol and memory card format to store the party rankings. Central count tally logic would need work as well.
> AVTS would need the same changes as AVOS, plus it will need some kind of user interface to present this to the user. We could either allow them to overvote within a party (current not allowed) and the tally only the ranking party. Or we could automatically deselect the lower ranked party when a higher rank is selected.
> GEMS side needs some race editor changes for the new race type flag, and rankings added to the voter group subsystem.
> In short, we are talking major version number changes to AVOS, AVTS, and GEMS.
> Keep in mind that cross endorsement isn't implemented in GEMS currently, nevermind the push variant. That would need doing before we take on push.
> Ken

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rcr@dieboldes.com [mailto:owner-rcr@dieboldes.com]On Behalf Of Greg Forsythe
> > Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 5:04 PM
> > To: Request for Change
> > Subject: New York ballot and the "Push" in certain races
> > One of the conditions to becoming certified in the State of New York is the "push", (their terms).
> > It appears that various parties can choose their candidates in various races to represent them, even though the candidates are not of their party. Should a voter happen to vote for the same candidate (team) more than once in the same race, even though it is a race for one, then the vote goes to the higher ranked party. The election establishment in New York call this a "push".
> > Fax sent to Tab and Ken. George W. is the candidate for the Republicans and the Conservative, Al Gore is the candidate for Democratic, Liberal and Working Families. The race for United States Senator (Vote for One), has Hillary Rodham Clinton running for Democratic, Liberal, and Working Families. If a voter marked the ballot for all three parties for Hillary, the vote would go to the highest ranking party, i.e.. the Democratic Party.
> > Greg Forsythe
> > Global Election Systems, Inc
> > (416) 446-1383 office (416) 446-1425 fax
> > (416) 464-3736 cell

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