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# RE: undervotes on the TS

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- Subject: RE: undervotes on the TS
- From: "Don Vopalensky" <don@gesn.com>
- Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 09:14:09 -0700
- Importance: Normal
- In-reply-to: <001001c20cfb$fb094ad0$2304a8c0@kclark>

The problem I have heard of out in the field with colors that some voters may be color blind, and not be able to determine colors.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-support@gesn.com [mailto:owner-support@gesn.com]On Behalf Of Ken Clark
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 6:47 PM
> To: support@gesn.com
> Subject: RE: undervotes on the TS

> This may well be the solution. Note that you have to be very careful with the “make it an option” answer to a design problem though. It always appears like a great idea when you look at the issue in hand. But it has a cumulative negative effect on the system as a whole. The system becomes complex and lacking in cohesion. Flags, especially, have a multiplicative effect. In this case, something as simple as making a screen shot of what the summary screen looks like becomes an exercise in interior decorating. At some point, someone puts our system beside some other system that “just works”, and we are left with an implicitly inferior product.

> Not that this is necessarily all the case with this issue. But it is late in the day and I have to do my “flags are bad” rant every once in a while.

> Ken

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-support@gesn.com [mailto:owner-support@gesn.com] On Behalf Of Sue Page
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 4:30 PM
> To: support@gesn.com
> Subject: RE: undervotes on the TS

> Maryland would like to see the undervotes flagged. A programmable color highlighting the undervote is a good suggestion. Let the user make this decision . . .

> Sue

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-support@gesn.com [mailto:owner-support@gesn.com]On Behalf Of Steve Knecht
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 8:05 PM
> > To: support@gesn.com
> > Subject: Re: undervotes on the TS

> > Appreciate you running it by development. What have the folks in development heard from the customers when they've been out in the field at elections on this issue?

> > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > From: Ken Clark

> > > To: support@gesn.com

> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:18 PM

> > > Subject: RE: undervotes on the TS

> > > There is no such flag, though this feature has been requested several times. There is a bit of a debate as to what to do with the summary screens and undervote. There are a couple of schools. One school says highlight them in red, just like blank votes. I am of that school FWIW. Another school says undervotes are perfectly acceptable, and they shouldn’t be highlighted. A third school says they should be highlighted in a color other than red, presumably yellow. I suppose a forth school would be to make the thing entirely configurable by the user.

> > > Let me bounce it off devel and we’ll make a command decision one way or the other. Right now not many people seem happy with the current state of affairs, which is to not do anything special with undervotes on the summary screen.

> > > Ken

> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-support@gesn.com [mailto:owner-support@gesn.com] On Behalf Of Tari Runyan
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:33 PM
> > > To: Support
> > > Subject: undervotes on the TS

> > > in 4.1.11 Lisa reports

> > > On the TS,
> > > in a vote for 2 race, he votes for one only. It is not showing up as highlighted for and undervoted race in the review screen unless he votes for none. IS this something we need to set in the database?

> > > Is there a flag in Gems like there is for the AVOS to reject undervotes for the TS or does it just ignore an undervote?

> > > Thanks

> > > Tari

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