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# RE: OS and TS upload

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- Subject: RE: OS and TS upload
- From: "Ken Clark" <ken@gesn.com>
- Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 15:25:11 -0800
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- In-reply-to: <NGBBJFAJENGBILFIMBGFKEGICDAA.stevek@gesn.com>

I understand that. I simply don’t see a mechanism to charge for it at the moment is all. I doubt it is worth the mark-up on a single AVTS unit. The only thing that makes selling AVTS units worth-while is that we sell lots of them per polling place.

If we are selling them a single unit at what amounts to a loss for “future consideration” of them going county-wide, or something, then so be it. But I don’t see a lot of evidence that anyone is looking at it that way.

Anyway, it is just an observation. We’ll do our best to see that it is technically feasible, regardless of the business-process.

Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-support@gesn.com [mailto:owner-support@gesn.com] On Behalf Of Steve Knecht
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 2:09 PM
To: support@gesn.com
Subject: RE: OS and TS upload

The Feds may require the ADA capabilities of the AV-TS to meet the disability requirements and would force this to occur. Not in our control.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-support@gesn.com [mailto:owner-support@gesn.com]On Behalf Of Ken Clark
> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 11:12 AM
> To: support@gesn.com
> Subject: RE: OS and TS upload

> Don, there are no “present procedures” on this as of yet, since I don’t think anyone has done this in anything but a small test capacity yet.

> Mark, your setup will indeed work. Hats off for intuiting the process.

> We of course thought about this possibility the day we started work on AVTS integration with GEMS several years ago. We had kinda hoped (faintly) that no one would be actually crazy enough to do it though. Right now the vote center dialog allows you to specify the count method for a vote center, and the number of memory cards. What we would need to do to do this right is to allow the user to specify for the vote center not a single count method, but multiple count methods. Our data structures don’t support this at the moment, so it is not a trivial change unfortunately. Mark’s setup will have to suffice for the interim.

> Could one or both of you write up some background on why they want to do this? My main worry is that we can’t possibly make enough money supporting such a complicated configuration. It is basically the worst of both worlds. Don’t get me wrong, GEMS can do it. I just wonder out loud whether this is even something we want to be offering customers. I guess this is an executive committee thing to answer.

> Ken

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-support@gesn.com [mailto:owner-support@gesn.com] On Behalf Of Mark S Earley
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 12:32 PM
> To: support@gesn.com
> Subject: RE: OS and TS upload

> I need clarification on this also, as most of the Florida counties eventually want one TS and one OS in each precinct. My understanding was that you would create an AVOS memory card and an AVTS memory card for each report precinct – the hard part is doing that. See attached test database for my attempt at this.

> While the method was not intuitive, I think I managed to build something that would work by making a separate Counter Group (each with its own Vote Center Type) for the OS precinct machines and the TS precinct machines. My question is would the results from each set of machines (OS and TS) add correctly for each of the reporting precincts?

> Also, my understanding is that you would need one set of modem ports for AVOS upload and one set of modem ports for AVTS upload. Each set of ports would have its own rollover phone number. The AVTS ports would also be configured for RAS.

> Is this the way to do it?

> All of this is just speculation based upon trial and error this past hour. I have not actually downloaded or uploaded any cards or results.

> Mark Earley

> 850 422-2100 - office/fax

> 850 322-3226 - cell

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-support@gesn.com [mailto:owner-support@gesn.com]On Behalf Of Don Bizmaier
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 2:21 PM
> To: support@gesn.com
> Subject: OS and TS upload

> Can anyone tell me what the present procedures are for uploading results when both OS and TS units are used? I have heard both ways - that they can upload at the same time and that they cannot. If they cannot it is going to be a real problem as juridiction start to use at least one TS in each polling place, which is what many OS customers are looking to do in the future.

> Thanks: Don

> Donald W. Biszmaier
> Support Services Specialist
> Diebold Election Systems, Inc.
> 7717 Greenwood Rd.
> Louisville, Ky. 40258
> Office 502-244-8645
> Cell 502-314-6936
> Fax 502-254-7835

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