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# RE: Cards Cast, Ballots Cast, and Times Counted

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- Subject: RE: Cards Cast, Ballots Cast, and Times Counted
- From: "Ken Clark" <ken@gesn.com>
- Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:35:33 -0600
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- In-reply-to: <NDBBLGPLOMMHOMJPHOIPGEJICFAA.tyler@gesn.com>

    I'd add that a race can be one-card jurisdiction wide and still not have
    times counted not match cards cast:  Partisan races.  You will actually have
    times counted for a nonpartisan race *exceed* cards cast for any given card
    in a closed primary.  We(1) get about 5 calls every primary telling us(2)
    there is a problem.  This is why I don't like the cards cast column on the
    SOVC, and fought against it until around GEMS 1.5 when Chen/McLauren finally
    beat me down for Alaska.

    Yep, clear as mud.

    Ken
    (1) I
    (2) me

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: owner-support@gesn.com [mailto:owner-support@gesn.com]On Behalf Of
    > Tyler Links
    > Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 10:25 AM
    > To: support@gesn.com
    > Subject: RE: Cards Cast, Ballots Cast, and Times Counted
    >
    >
    > These three things are similar, but subtly different.
    >
    > Cards Cast and Ballots Cast are different from one another only if the
    > jurisdiction has two-card ballots.  Two-card ballots are more the
    > exception
    > than the rule (my regards to those of you who support elections "out West"
    > i.e. Colorado, Arizona, California, Washington, etc.), therefore
    > Cards Cast
    > and Ballots Cast are often interchangeable.
    >
    > Times Counted means the number of times that the race in question was read
    > by an Accu-Vote (whether it had a valid vote or not).  If the race is
    > jurisdiction-wide (on all ballots), then the times counted for the race
    > should match the Ballots Cast.  If the race is not jurisdiction wide and
    > does not appear on all ballots/cards, then the Times Counted could be
    > different from Ballots Cast.
    >
    > Clear as mud?
    >
    > Tyler
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: owner-support@gesn.com [mailto:owner-support@gesn.com]On Behalf Of
    > Mike Brown
    > Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 9:36 AM
    > To: support@gesn.com
    > Subject: Cards Cast, Ballots Cast, and Times Counted
    >
    > Beth Kish has just completed a re-count and she has some questions.  What
    > are the differences between Cards Cast, Ballots Cast, and Times Counted in
    > the reports.
    > Mike
    >
    > Mike Brown
    > 1611 Wilmeth Road,
    > McKinney, T.X.
    > 75069
    > PH: 972.542.6000
    > FX: 972.542.6044

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