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# Re: Report to show cards exceeding selected ballot length

- To: support@gesn.com
- Subject: Re: Report to show cards exceeding selected ballot length
- From: Karen Rhea <krhea@pacbell.net>
- Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 11:51:16 -0800
- References: <PPECJKNKLDJLKJPKPPIOMEDCDFAA.ken@gesn.com>

    Thanks, Ken.
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Ken Clark" <ken@gesn.com>
    To: <support@gesn.com>
    Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 10:43 AM
    Subject: RE: Report to show cards exceeding selected ballot length

    > No, there isn't really any easy way to get that.  You can expand the
    > BallotStyle tree item, select the Card Style tab, and then step through
    the
    > ballot style tree with the down-arrow.  The ballots with two cards will
    > stand out pretty well.  Even for a few hundred ballot styles I wouldn't
    > characterize it as "very time consuming", but tedious it is.  We'll look
    > into adding number of cards per ballot on the list views and reports.
    That
    > should help.  This will probably have to be a 1.19 thing though.
    >
    > If you are trying to find out the number of 18" ballots (as opposed to two
    > card ballots), that is pretty easy.  Select the Card tree item to see the
    > list of all cards, then click on the "Length" field header to sort by
    > length.
    >
    > Ken
    >
    >
    >
    > > -----Original Message-----
    > > From: owner-support@gesn.com [mailto:owner-support@gesn.com]On Behalf Of
    > > Karen Rhea
    > > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 7:24 PM
    > > To: support@gesn.com
    > > Subject: Re: Report to show cards exceeding selected ballot length
    > >
    > >
    > > Sorry, Ken. I didn't phrase that well - new post jitters. I am
    > > looking for a
    > > way to determine when a style or set of contests spills over to a second
    > > card. Fresno is trying (unsuccessfully) to stay at a 14" card. For
    ballot
    > > production reasons we need to know the percentage of 14" vs. 18" cards.
    I
    > > stepped through the ballot styles and came up with a number. However,
    this
    > > was very time consuming and still did not get us all of the info
    > > we wanted,
    > > i.e. report prec's. by party coming in at 18". Any suggestions re:
    > > shortcuts?
    > > -k-
    > >
    > > ----- Original Message -----
    > > From: "Ken Clark" <kwclark71@yahoo.com>
    > > To: <support@gesn.com>
    > > Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 11:12 PM
    > > Subject: Re: Report to show cards exceeding selected ballot length
    > >
    > >
    > > > Not as such.
    > > >
    > > > If you have a race that is too big to lay out in a
    > > > column of its own, then the whole ballot currently
    > > > fails to lay out.  I think one/some of the ballot
    > > > reports will show which are laid out and which are
    > > > not, but its not to my knowledge ever worth actually
    > > > printing the report for this purpose. Its usually
    > > > (read, always) pretty obvious which race is causing
    > > > grief.  In the ballot list view you can click on the
    > > > status field to sort out those that failed to lay out,
    > > > and then look at the list of races on those ballots.
    > > >
    > > > I would like it if paper layout acted like AVTS layout
    > > > and split the race text into the next column if it
    > > > doesn't fit.  This was the original GEMS design.  In
    > > > the real world no one seems to actually want that
    > > > however, and would change the number of columns to
    > > > make it fit anyway, so it has never happened.
    > > >
    > > > Ken
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > --- Karen Rhea <krhea@pacbell.net> wrote:
    > > > > Is there an existing GEMS report which lists styles
    > > > > where contests exceed the front/back of the selected
    > > > > card length?
    > > > > -karen-
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >
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    - From: "Ken Clark" <ken@gesn.com>

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